- A/C System Repair/Retrofit (Continued)-

Our DisclaimerIROCZONE.com, its affiliates, owners and members, claim no responsibility of damage to your AC system or any other component of your vehicle as a result of using the following documentation.  By proceeding, you agree that there may be some error in documentation and you will assume all risks from here on out.  We recommend that if any AC work is to be done, that your vehicle should be taken to a local repair shop.  These instructions are for educational purposes to show what is involved in retrofitting an AC system correctly, versus one of those cheap kits you buy at Wal*Mart that don't work worth a dime.

Now on with some troubleshooting and additional tips.

The following documentation is in very DRAFT mode!  If you have any questions, please do not e-mail us.  We will post updates as we keep working on this project.  We suggest you visit http://www.ackits.com and go to their message board.  You can also visit http://www.aircondition.com and browse through their archives of messages and read, read, read to get a good feel of what's involved and hopefully answer any questions you have.  These instructions are based on the fact that you have some knowledge of auto AC and can go from these.  Once this documentation progresses, we will adapt it with more detailed instructions and pictures to help those who are less knowledgeable than others.

Thanks to www.air-tique.com for help on these useful troubleshooting tips!

High Side too Low

  1. Leak in system

  2. Defective expansion valve

  3. Suction valve closed

  4. Low on refrigerant

  5. Plugged receiver drier

  6. Compressor suction valve leaking

  7. Bad reed valves in compressor

What do to

  1. Repair leak in system

  2. Replace valve

  3. Open valve

  4. Add refrigerant

  5. Replace drier

  6. Replace valve

  7. Replace reed valves

High Side too High

  1. Air in system

  2. Clogged condenser

  3. Discharge valve closed

  4. Overcharged system

  5. Insufficient condenser air

  6. Loose fan belt

  7. Condenser not centered on fan or too far from radiator

What do to

  1. Recharge system

  2. Clean condenser

  3. Open valve

  4. Remove some refrigerant

  5. Install large fan

  6. Tighten fan belt

  7. Center and check distance

 

Low Side too Low

  1. Low on refrigerant

  2. Worn compressor piston

  3. Compressor head gasket leaking

  4. Kinked or flattened hose

  5. Compressor suction valve leaking

  6. Moisture in system

  7. Trash in expansion valve or screen

  8. Expansion valve or orifice tube opening too small

What do to

  1. Add refrigerant

  2. Replace compressor

  3. Replace head gasket

  4. Replace hose

  5. Change valve plate

  6. Replace drier

  7. Replace filter/orifice tube

  8. Replace 

Low Side too High

  1. Loose expansion valve

  2. Overcharged system

  3. Expansion valve stuck open

  4. Compressor reed valves

  5. Leaking head gasket on compressor

  6. Expansion valve or orifice tube opening too large

What do to

  1. Tighten

  2. Remove some refrigerant

  3. Replace expansion valve

  4. Replace reed valves

  5. Replace head gasket

  6. Replace with correct size valve or orifice tube

Compressor Not Working

  1. Broken belt

  2. Broken clutch wire or no 12V power

  3. Broken compressor piston

  4. Bad thermostat

  5. Bad clutch coil

  6. Faulty AC relay

  7. Refrigerant shortage - low pressure switch has cut off clutch power

What do to

  1. Replace belt

  2. Repair wire or check for power

  3. Replace compressor

  4. Replace thermostat

  5. Replace clutch coil

  6. Replace AC relay

  7. Add refrigerant

Evaporator Not Cooling

  1. Frozen coil, switch set too high

  2. Drive belt slipping

  3. Hot air leaks into car

  4. Plugged receiver drier

  5. Capillary tube broken

  6. Shortage of refrigerant

  7. High head pressure

  8. Low suction pressure

  9. High suction pressure

  10. Defective expansion valve

  11. Frozen expansion valve

What do to

  1. Turn thermostat switch back

  2. Tighten belt

  3. Check for holes or open vents

  4. Replace drier

  5. Replace expansion valve

  6. Add refrigerant

  7. See problem #2

  8. See problem #3

  9. See problem #4

  10. Replace expansion valve

  11. Evacuate and replace drier

Frozen Evaporator Coil

  1. Faulty thermostat

  2. Thermostat not set properly

  3. Insufficient evaporator air

What do to

  1. Replace thermostat

  2. Set to driving condition

  3. Turn switch to higher setting...Check for excessive duct hose length, kink or bend.

 

Temperature/Pressure Chart

Static pressure (A/C not running, system equalized)

 

Determining if there is air in the system.  Hopefully, if you followed our instructions correctly and pulled proper vacuum, you should have very little air in the system.  If you feel there is too much air in the system, you can check by hooking up your gauges to your system and measuring the static pressures once the system has equalized (both low and high side the same).  Record the outside (or ambient) temperature and follow the chart below.  If you are at or close the what the pressures should be, you have no or very little air in the system.  If you are higher than what is stated in the chart, you have air in the system.  Keep in mind.  An engine compartment, even if it's not running, may be hotter than the outside temp if it has been sitting out in the sun for a period of time.  Best thing to do is put a thermometer in the engine compartment and measure the immediate temperature of the surrounding area.

 

How do you remove air?  Well.  Luckily, our systems provide a way to accomplish this somewhat by positioning the low side valve in a location that is the highest point of the entire system.  If any air is in the system, it will usually reside on top of the refrigerant (as refrigerant is a heavier gas).  With this said, any significant amount of air would most likely be sitting on the top part of the accumulator.  You can release the air buy pushing in on the valve on the low side port.  This will, most likely, release some refrigerant so be very careful!  Push in on the valve about half way for 1 to 2 seconds.  If any air is in that area, this would help remove it.  Keep in mind.  It is IMPOSSIBLE to remove 100% of the air in the system.  Only perform this procedure if you have a significant amount of air in the system.  You can repeat the procedure after running the system again and let it equalize to trap more air in the accumulator to remove.  Remember, the more "air" you release, chances are, you could run low on refrigerant and may need a top-off.

 

Of course, the correct way would be to hook up your equipment and recover the gas with the air.  Most high-end recovery systems will separate the air from the refrigerant.  Hopefully, you won't have to worry about this procedure as you followed our instructions to the T!

 

Degrees Fahrenheit R-134a Pressure (PSIG) R-12 Pressure (PSIG)
-30 °F 9.8 in. Hg. 5.5 in. Hg.
-20 °F 3.7 in. Hg. 0.6 in. Hg.
-10 °F 1.9 4.5
0 °F 6.5 9.2
10 °F 12.0 14.6
20 °F 18.4 21.0
24 °F 21.4 23.9
25 °F 22.1 24.6
26 °F 22.9 25.3
28 °F 24.5 26.9
30 °F 26.1 28.5
40 °F 35.0 37.0
50 °F 45.3 46.7
60 °F 57.3 57.7
70 °F 70.9 70.2
80 °F 86.4 84.2
90 °F 103.9 99.8
100 °F 123.6 117.2
110 °F 145.6 136.4
120 °F 170.3 157.7
130 °F 197.6 181.1
140 °F 227.9 206.6
150 °F 261.4 234.6
160 °F 298.4 265.1
170 °F 338 298
inch Hg. Figures are Vacuum / All Others are PSIG

 

IMPORTANT!  Static pressure readings will NOT tell you if you are low or high on refrigerant!  Take two 30 lbs. cylinders for example.  One has 10 lbs. of R-134a and the other has 20 lbs. of R-134.  The pressure of both tanks WILL BE THE SAME!  Gas will expand into a liquid when there is room, thus, providing the same amount of pressure whether it's 10 lbs. or 20 lbs.  Obviously, if the gas has more than enough room to expand (very low), the pressures will then begin to drop.


Hopefully, this documentation was helpful.  If you need to go back to any of the other pages, choose from the links below.

[Page 1] - Tools, Parts and Supplies you need to get started
[Page 2] -
Performing the R134a retrofit


Allan Reinike


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